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	<title>Comments on: Hail the Victorious Dead</title>
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	<description>the turn to Nyarlathotep---bringing the void to birth</description>
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		<title>By: ZSDP</title>
		<link>http://zsdp.info/2009/12/hail-the-victorious-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>ZSDP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, jeez, I can&#039;t help myself.

I&#039;m having a hard time reconciling this---&quot;A terrible list.&quot;---with this--- &quot;The concept of good or bad lists makes little sense&quot;. Incoherent much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, jeez, I can&#8217;t help myself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m having a hard time reconciling this&#8212;&#8221;A terrible list.&#8221;&#8212;with this&#8212; &#8220;The concept of good or bad lists makes little sense&#8221;. Incoherent much?</p>
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		<title>By: ZSDP</title>
		<link>http://zsdp.info/2009/12/hail-the-victorious-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>ZSDP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a resounding condemnation.

Perhaps it is a fault that I did not list any women, but that would be more of a fault with my education than with my intentions, as I would be hard-pressed to list a handful of female philosophers that (1) I know anything about and (2) are in the league of those mentioned above. And a few of those I might mention are still alive, which, as you might have gathered from the title of this entry, would&#039;ve violated the terms I set for myself in making the list. In any case, I don&#039;t see myself as obligated to reach some quota for either sex. Maybe this will just prove to you (as you said elsewhere) that I &quot;unconsciously think the world is male&quot; (a bizarre and potentially offensive complaint that smells of smear tactics rather than thoughtful critique), but I was mostly worrying whether the philosophers I listed had noteworthy enough ideas rather than perseverating over some imaginary sexism I might display. I mean, most of the list is white, too. Should I have included non-white philosophers to appease whatever perverse gods you serve?

Despite my generally derisive tone, I would be interested in suggestions for female nominees to be added to this list, if only so that I might fill in an area of knowledge that is sorely lacking.

As for adding non-western (particularly Indian, Chinese, and Japanese) philosophers to the list, I would very much have liked to do so---in fact, I struggled to keep the constraint of Western philosophy intact. In the end, I decided to make things simpler by following the rough pattern Graham described in the post I linked to. If it were simply a list of the greatest philosophers of all time, I can assure you it would have been a much different list. Though perhaps still all male, &#039;cause that&#039;s the way I manifest my repressed sexism.</description>
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<p>Perhaps it is a fault that I did not list any women, but that would be more of a fault with my education than with my intentions, as I would be hard-pressed to list a handful of female philosophers that (1) I know anything about and (2) are in the league of those mentioned above. And a few of those I might mention are still alive, which, as you might have gathered from the title of this entry, would&#8217;ve violated the terms I set for myself in making the list. In any case, I don&#8217;t see myself as obligated to reach some quota for either sex. Maybe this will just prove to you (as you said elsewhere) that I &#8220;unconsciously think the world is male&#8221; (a bizarre and potentially offensive complaint that smells of smear tactics rather than thoughtful critique), but I was mostly worrying whether the philosophers I listed had noteworthy enough ideas rather than perseverating over some imaginary sexism I might display. I mean, most of the list is white, too. Should I have included non-white philosophers to appease whatever perverse gods you serve?</p>
<p>Despite my generally derisive tone, I would be interested in suggestions for female nominees to be added to this list, if only so that I might fill in an area of knowledge that is sorely lacking.</p>
<p>As for adding non-western (particularly Indian, Chinese, and Japanese) philosophers to the list, I would very much have liked to do so&#8212;in fact, I struggled to keep the constraint of Western philosophy intact. In the end, I decided to make things simpler by following the rough pattern Graham described in the post I linked to. If it were simply a list of the greatest philosophers of all time, I can assure you it would have been a much different list. Though perhaps still all male, &#8217;cause that&#8217;s the way I manifest my repressed sexism.</p>
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		<title>By: sdv</title>
		<link>http://zsdp.info/2009/12/hail-the-victorious-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A terrible list. The concept of good or bad lists makes little sense and I&#039;ll not comment on how and why I think the names are wrong apart from saying that noticably not a single woman... Sometimes I despair at what they teach as philosophy and this list demonstrates evrything that is wrong with current philosophical pedeagogic practice.

Now rewite the list with 50% women, then redo it again with 50% non-western philosophers.

best steve</description>
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<p>Now rewite the list with 50% women, then redo it again with 50% non-western philosophers.</p>
<p>best steve</p>
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		<title>By: one person&#8217;s list &#171; Object-Oriented Philosophy</title>
		<link>http://zsdp.info/2009/12/hail-the-victorious-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>one person&#8217;s list &#171; Object-Oriented Philosophy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m still interested in the great philosophers lists, and here is a list at ONTOLOGENESIS, which contains a number of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Conversaci&#243;n en Ontologenesis &#171;</title>
		<link>http://zsdp.info/2009/12/hail-the-victorious-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Conversaci&#243;n en Ontologenesis &#171;</dc:creator>
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